A liberal friend of mine and I were discussing issues today, and I wanted to highlight some of his claims and my responses to those claims.
Claim: “If conservatives *really* cared about abortion they would have created a constitutional amendment to ban it outright?”
Well, I have moved a little bit to the left on this issue over the years. As a young evangelical, a ban was just what I wanted. However, I think there is a strong case to be made in the case of rape, incest, and the life (not health, but life - ironically because, well we value life!) of the mother. That doesn’t mean the pro-abortion arguments in these cases are unassailable, but it means that I personally don’t have all the answers nor the time to formulate them and I just prefer to say that abortions should be illegal except in those three cases, and leave it at that.
[I would add - and the thought just occurred to me now, that the notion that conservatives "would have created a Constitutional amendment to ban" abortion is flawed, because conservatives by themselves do not have, nor have they had in my lifetime, majorities sufficient to pass a Constitutional amendment (2/3 of both houses of Congress, and 3/4 of the state legislatures).]
Claim: “We wage war in other countries and *know* there will be civilian casualties — a good number of them young children. But those are the costs of the war on terrorism so we do bother ourselves.”
In any war there are civilian casualties. That is a given throughout all of history. You cannot exclusively blame the US for this. That is unfair.
Rather, you have to look at this against the following backdrop. Yes, there have been errant strikes which have inadvertently - through the malfunction of weaponry, or weather, or human error - killed children and civilian non-combatants. But through technological advancement, the United States has done more than any nation in the history of warfare to limit the number of civilian casualties in warfare. Furthermore, quite unlike our enemies, we do NOT intentionally target non-terrorists in our “war on terror.” We target the terrorists. I blame the terrorists when they keep children in their hideouts or use innocents as human shields full well knowing that a US bomb could drop on them at anytime from anywhere and the children will be killed. Do they not do this so that they can then say, “the US imperialist aggressors murder children?” So, when you talk about the costs of the WOT, you have to also state that we as a moral society go to enormous lengths to target those and only those who are the enemy.
Claim: “Even in our own country we don’t care about the life of children. We have hundreds of thousands of children who are abused, neglected, hungry and we turn a blind eye to them because it might cost us some money.”
I can’t help but be reminded of Howard Dean’s quote, “our moral values, in contradistinction to that of Republicans, is that we don’t want to see kids go to bed hungry at night.”
When you say, “it might cost us some money,” what do you mean? Churches and charities in this country do enormous work in treating the abused, neglected, and in feeding the hungry. Americans contribute billions to these causes every year. So I don’t think that it’s because “it might cost us some money.” The issue is that liberals like yourself prefer that there is a government solution to helping the kids and conservatives believe that while there may be a small role for government to play, the work of private organizations in this regard is far more necessary and important. So the issue is not do we have the money. The issue is HOW we do it - through government or through the private sector.
“There is more to it than that. But I never get the sense that those who are so apposed to abortion really are pro-life so much as “pro-neonata”
[He means pro-neonatal life.] I think I know what you are going to say here, even though it cut off. I understand what you’re getting at but I would want to back up a step. I think we need to ask ourselves what does “supporting the cause of human life” actually mean? For example, most liberals support wide abortion rights but do not support the death penalty. Most conservatives support a pro-life position but also support the death penalty. Liberals respond by saying how can you be “pro-life” (in the wider, not just abortion sense of the term) when you support capital punishment. Conservatives say, how can you be pro-life when you support abortion? So I think we have to understand what “supporting human life” means in the context of each side….another example. Conservatives support doing some killing to take out a tyrant whereas liberals generally shudder at the notion of doing any killing at all, regardless of the evil of the tyrant. So again, both sides can claim to support the “cause of human life” but then arrive at totally opposite conclusions.
I think the difference then between left and right is rooted in how high a value is place on life. For the liberal [on the abortion issue], life is above all other values. This explains why many liberals take the position that a woman can do what she wants with her body. To deny her that right is to deny her life - her quality of life - her right to function as an autonomous being. By the same token, in taking the life of a convicted murderer most liberals would say that although the murderer has taken a life we have no right to deny [i.e. take] his life - again, life uber alis, life above all.
The right believes that human life is an extraordinarily high value, however we believe that goodness and morality are even higher values. That is why we distinguish between the innocent (good) life and the guilty/evil (the bad life). We make distinctions between the value of the life of a Saddam Hussein and a newborn infant or unborn baby. We say that because the latter is innocent, we value that life much more than the life of the convicted murderer. We do not believe that those who have murdered and wrongfully taken a life deserve to keep their own. We recognize that some murderers who are not put to death will go on to murder again, either in prison or out of prison. We realize that more innocents will die if we do not execute some murderers than if we allow all murderers to keep their lives.
Now, I realize that for some folks these distinctions are difficult to make…they believe, and rightly so, that since each person is created in God’s image, and since each life is of infinite worth to God, how do we ever have the right to take any human life at all? As idyllic as this sounds, it’s not the understanding given to us by the Old Testament or for that matter the New Testament. I’ll leave the theology for a different day, but it suffices to say that this understanding, which in my view is quite flawed, comes from a misinterpretation of the sixth commandment, which is “thou shalt not murder” not “thou shalt not kill.” Christ Himself affirms the commandment in the New Testament, quoting from the Septuagint [see St. Matthew 19:18].
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An Important piece by Max Boot